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welcome to this edition of when the
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biomass it’s the wind turbine a
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discussion of sustainable living and
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what that means to you and me I’m Jay
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Warmke and I’m Annie Warmke, you
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certainly are, and today we’re gonna talk
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about sustaining diversity or they’re
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all made of ticky tacky and they all
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look ok there’s a song about that
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I know I know I always think of Pete
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Seeger did he write it or did someone
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else Oh anyway anyway let’s talk about
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diversity and diversity could mean a lot
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of things when I think about diversity I
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see all the colors there are millions of
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them except we seem to think there are
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only a few and that’s how I see
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diversity ok to make white light you
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need you need a rabbit colors ok all
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right well you were talking about before
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when we were talking about this subject
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about microbes and microbes each microbe
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touches each microbe so I don’t know
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what the heck that means well I think
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that every microbe touches every microbe
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we’re all touching each other and we’re
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touching everything it’s connected and I
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think I find this to be very comforting
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to think that we all somehow are
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connected and that’s powerful and if we
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believe that then we recognize the the
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real power and the need we need each
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other and we need all the things that
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surround us and the problem that we’re
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facing is that a lot of those things
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that have sustained us as human beings
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as animals as insects as soil as air are
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have been erased just really erased we
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should be trying to do is to create
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balance a balance in that diversity so
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if there are bad bugs there are good
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bugs because they need that everything
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needs the food but we are so far out of
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balance right now it’s not funny so
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we’ve we’ve talked about that balance in
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terms of in terms of gardening when you
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talk about pests you know one pest
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balancing the other pests talk about it
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in medical healthcare where these
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illnesses or negatives what we typically
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would think of like is bad bacterias or
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whatever a present all the time they’re
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just
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captain check they’re kept in balance
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well the body has the ability to do that
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if we don’t keep erasing the stuff that
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controls the balance and an example of
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that would be like antibiotics right
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when your tie a healthy person has the
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bad audix
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they have those bad bacteria they have
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good bacterias everything is in balance
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when you give yourself antibiotics or
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you you have antibiotics like wiping the
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battlefield clean and then whichever one
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is more adapted for rapid infiltration
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of this clean battlefield is going to
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then be dominant no longer is there
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balance while we’ve destroyed the body’s
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ability to reinvent the balance and
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that’s why it’s antibiotic but why we’ve
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never think about probiotics so what if
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we instead of wiping out all of the
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bacteria we said to the good bacteria
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here have some help and we create lots
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more good bacteria well and what we find
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on the on the micro scale is true in the
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larger scale of plants and animals
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providing balance and that’s what we
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talk about nature and Darwinism and all
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these other things of getting into this
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balance of each species balancing the
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other and you can even talk about
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cultural balance all these cultures are
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in balance with it so that’s what we’re
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talking about with diversity if you want
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to just think about it and say okay what
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have we been doing on larger scales like
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antibiotics right we’re coming in and
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we’re wiping out species whether that’s
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through global warming or through the
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way we plant our crops or anything
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because every single system that exists
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is is being influenced and collapsing if
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you will under the weight of this
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imbalance and one of the things that
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started this discussion was that I read
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an article a little while ago maybe in
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the fall about a study that was done on
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biodiversity which is is really about
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everything that exists and I just
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started crying because what really
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matters is that we are destroying all of
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the systems that create this balance in
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our
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lives for health and for everything an
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example would be that the world supply
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of bananas oranges coffee and coconuts
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are basically down to one strain and
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that’s because we’ve relied on only one
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strain and we’ve killed off everything
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else
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and I don’t know about you but I’m not
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sure that I can live without coconuts
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and bananas well I know you wait how
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about coffee
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that should get everybody excited is
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that me you’re starting to wonder in the
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territory that is forbidden know it but
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coffees in trouble the coffee plant is
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in trouble because there’s only one kind
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and actually there are 12 of I don’t
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know how many food plants that we
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actually consume you know on average in
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the world something like 15 or 16 plants
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that we actually consume as we eat we we
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have such an area there’s more than that
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but these are the dominant these are the
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most eaten things and the problem is
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that they’re down to 1/2 so when we look
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at Tomatoes which under the Mayans there
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were 5,000 varieties of tomatoes well we
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look at some of the other things that
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most common foods that we eat now are
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onions
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I know that’s not near food group and
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cabbage or brassicas so that would be
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broccoli and cauliflower and things like
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that Brussels sprouts I know those
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aren’t in your food group either those
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are one of the top ones yeah boy for
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British for British like Christmas meals
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maybe no well brassicas I say so that
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family so cabbage and brassicas
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cucumbers are next eggplants high on
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your food group – and then carrots and
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turnips they’re in the same food group
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and then chilies and peppers also in
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your food trouble I haven’t heard butter
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finger lettuce and chicory spinach and
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garlic these are the main vegetables
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that people this is the count for the
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whole world that consume and all of
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these are in great trouble well you know
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with bananas you had mentioned bananas
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and I’ve seen that you know I had heard
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or read something somewhere about these
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blights that come
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and how they’ll wipe out entire species
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of these bananas so the bananas that
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we’re consuming today were we’re really
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considered to be the trash bananas but
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they’ve managed to survive all the
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diseases that the banana industry has
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managed to create through that imbalance
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the other things are and this is your
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food group here other issues are barley
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corn rice and wheat
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these are the main grains that are
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consumed the main ingredients of fruit
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loops right but here’s the thing is that
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you don’t can ask ourselves well why is
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this happening and it really is about
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greed and the likes of companies like
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Monsanto who control two-thirds of the
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global seed market they own one-quarter
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of the seed industry itself and sixty
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percent of all seeds ninety-four percent
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of all seeds are owned because there was
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a quirk in the wording for the patent
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law in this country and with all their
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money like with the likes of Monsanto
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and seven other eight other companies
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they were able to come in and really
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take all the patents and patent seeds
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and control seeds and own seeds and the
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US Constitution is very clear about not
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being able to do that right so we’re
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basically patenting a living organism
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yeah yeah which seems a little bit wrong
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well but we but the real issue here is
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the fact that corporations and their
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singular thinking have taken over food
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and we cannot survive as human beings
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some of us will survive longer some
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animals will survive longer some plants
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will survive longer but without balance
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we must have balance so things are going
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living forms are capable of altering to
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become resilient or to be more resilient
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against these imbalances in that way of
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thinking
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we’ve lost 94 percent of the species
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since 1976 okay and is this because a
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Monsanto can we blame them or their
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other
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people to blame its it comes down to the
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imbalance so it is that the Manzo’s a
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combination of things it’s it’s the way
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that we present we prepare and grow our
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food which is which is one of them and
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it’s it’s changes in climate which is
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another but that’s come from the
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behavior of whatever we want to call it
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it doesn’t matter who’s the cause the
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problem is that we have influenced the
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ozone layer we’ve created this amazing
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amount of carbon people think they don’t
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do things like that but if you have one
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plane flight you’ve pretty much
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destroyed the amount of carbon you
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should be allowed to have for your
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lifetime well and actually I and I’ll
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throw out a statistic you know 98% of
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all statistics are just made up which is
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another of these but you know I’d read
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that actually the destruction of the
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rainforests the the monoculture
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mechanism that we have where we’re
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cutting down forests to raise beef and
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things of that nature actually has a
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more detrimental impact on climate than
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actually the burning of fossil fuels
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well yeah because that’s the lungs of
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the earth right and so when we talk
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about people might say well I read my
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bicycle or I do these other things I can
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divorce myself away from that but the
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reality is yeah the reality is our our
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Western lifestyle
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yeah with all these people on the planet
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is having an effect and that effect is a
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mass extinction of the biodiversity of
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this of this planet whether as a result
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of some of our activities or a direct
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cause when we chop down a rainforests
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and cattle yeah yeah that changes the
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biodiversity directly well I think you
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know these are all words that maybe some
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of us can throw around and other people
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have no idea but if we come back to the
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concept of balance mm-hm
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you know think about a teeter totter
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when I was a kid I’d love to go on the
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teeter-totter but it had to be with
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somebody I trusted because if they
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jumped off and my bottom hit the ground
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boom that hurt like hell oh excuse my
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French and so basically Monsanto is
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jumping off the TV
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and the human races back a new tailbone
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that’s right and the hard reality of
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global warming that for that’s deep
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that’s deep and there’s another cuss
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word that goes with that too but here’s
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the thing is that we need to have that
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balance so when that teeter-totter is
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even we can still have fun and we can
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still have a life but we have to create
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this balance in our own lives and and I
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know that whatever I do has absolutely
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no impact on global warming absolutely
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it does not but it has an influence on
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my life and the quality of my life that
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I have balance I’m not caught up in the
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culture of the roller coaster of this
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culture and I am reasonably healthy in
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that even though I’m still breathing a
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lot of air that I probably don’t want to
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breathe as far as pollution and things
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like that and I go out into the world
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where I eat commodity foods that are
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raised in a horrible way that aren’t
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healthy sometimes I I do eat those foods
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but mostly what I can do is have control
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over my own life in that I can produce
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food in a healthy way I can store I can
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save and store seeds I can make a
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commitment to zero waste I can make a
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commitment to using organics that are
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locally produced because Walmart
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organics I will go to my death bed
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saying that’s a bologna sausage it’s an
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oxymoron but but to make these kind of
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commitments they all they do is require
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you to have a little bit of planning and
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a little bit of thinking and we seem to
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have a problem with that so you’re
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saying that just because the the problem
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that we’re facing on a global scale is
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is essentially one that you can’t tackle
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as an individual yeah you can tackle
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those issues around your own behavior
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yeah and whether that has an impact on
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the global aspect of of biodiversity or
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whatever it really is more about walking
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the walk you know talk about its having
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a better feeling better yeah internally
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be the change you want to see in the
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world
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anok and I can also try to take these
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things and make sure that my yard
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or maybe work with my neighbors or
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certainly my farm has the ability to at
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least be regenerating soil and putting
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good microbes back into the soil I can
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do all that and maybe at some point what
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if enough people try to do these things
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it will have an impact but for right now
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I can’t change anything except for
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myself and this is a big argument in the
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the world of ecology now because you
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know the government has said or or
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activists have said if you just turn off
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your faucet or repair your leaky faucet
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or if you just grow veggies and eat this
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bla bla bla and oh you’re gonna make
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things better for the rest of the world
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and that’s not true okay well you are
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listening to when the biomass it’s the
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wind turbine with Jay and Annie Warmke
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reminding you that it is indeed the end
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of the world as we know it and thank God
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thank God yeah and and actually the
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world as we know it obviously is leading
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towards a monoculture internally it’s
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your medical through feeding Jay it’s
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they’re so much trouble okay we have a
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monoculture in our food industry we have
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monoculture in our media entertainment
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we have a monoculture in our in our
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transportation in our energy systems in
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our beliefs in our beliefs yep and and
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and now you know even more so which
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we’ll get to in a wee bit we’re trying
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to create this monoculture within our
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culture you know yeah let’s keep the
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other out you know let’s focus on the
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sameness
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you know sameness is good diversity is
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because let me say it’s too late the
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door can’t be shut we all started summer
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too late
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no wait we it isn’t so everybody that’s
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here came from somewhere else it may not
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be that it was this generation but
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everybody came from somewhere else and
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and this is our story so we erased those
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stories we a lot of people in this
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country don’t even know their
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grandparents full name okay before we
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tiptoe into that though let’s talk about
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some of the less politically sensitive
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issues of diverse these are all
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politically everything yes in this world
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if you don’t agree with me by
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well let’s go back to the whole thing
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again just focusing on food and the fact
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that every system in our culture is
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promoting this mono thinking the
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singular thinking so if we look at the
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government we look at like things like
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the food pyramids they change them
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periodically but they’re really based on
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making money for the agriculture
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industry which is not the farmer
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unfortunately it is for groups like
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Monsanto or Arthur Daniels Midland
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chemical producing companies like DuPont
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these are the people making all of the
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money and not seeming to understand that
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what they’re doing is destroying the
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ability to survive well it when you
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mention the government it seems to me
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that the whole concept behind
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governmental laws are essentially saying
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one size fits all right but that I have
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come up with a regulation and this is
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what we’re going to do and and that
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almost by its very definition is going
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to try to create a monoculture of
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behavior you know instead of saying that
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each individual situation has its own
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situational aspects and maybe the laws
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cannot be simply laid down but that
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seems unworkable you know from a
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governance standpoint right but as long
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as there are only 12 food groups that
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you’re eating from okay we’re back to
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food I was I was more on speeding
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tickets yeah okay but as long as there
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are only those 12 and as long as I can
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follow you around like now can be done
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very easily could be done before but
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it’s done pretty easily now because you
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have you use a credit card you shop
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online you talk online you look at
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things online you research things online
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so these companies that are into trying
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to manage and make a very singular
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thought out of each human being then are
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able to market to you why you should buy
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certain things because you are not human
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you’re a consumer you’re not a human
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being you’re consumer and what you
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consume is what makes them rich and so
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if you are limiting your
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choices that’s so much easier to manage
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okay I was trying to get this back to
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diversity so that’s that’s no but that’s
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on my face so okay so they that so
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you’re basically saying that from a
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corporate standpoint a lack of diversity
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is helpful yes you can now conglomerate
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these these consumer expectations into
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very small groups you know instead of
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having five thousand different
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automobiles that you can choose from
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that you’ve got you know eight or six or
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ten or whatever and we know what words
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will get you to do what we want you to
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do so we’ll mark it to you we know what
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words you’re using to search for these
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things so we know how to determine how
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that all works for you and I’m not into
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Big Brother this is not your you’re
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pushing towards a monoculture of thought
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yes that’s right and so what that does
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is make us more easily manageable
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particularly when it comes to things
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like fear and all the other stuff that
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goes with that but again everything on
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this list does start with the food Jay
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in spite of the fact that those food
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groups that are in trouble not of
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interest to you that well you mentioned
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coffee I’m already a little worried
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about that yeah well I think a lot of
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people should be worried although we
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have chicory that grows on the farm you
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dig up the roots and don’t mention
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chicory you may be desperate
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you better start buying up chocolate I
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mean coffee you know like when we lived
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in France empty five-gallon – yeah when
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we came when we came back from France I
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don’t know how many you had smuggled how
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many bags one-pound bags of coffee or
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favorite coffee from France but there
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were quite a lot and if we’ve gotten
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caught there would be $800 fine for each
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one of those little bags right it’d be
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worth it okay so so let’s look at some
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other you
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I think beaten the idea of food
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diversity and and I think that’s very
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you know valid for sure is is we need
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diversity if nothing more than to keep
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the the foods that we like available to
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us
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the diversity here’s the thing that’s
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really hard is and this is the part
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that’s I think the most disturbing is
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how do people go to the market or the
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grocery store and figure out what to buy
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because the whole system is set up to
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use the same five or six foods they just
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mix them up differently and when
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something says it’s what it is
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it often is not and and when we keep
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talking about you should buy from people
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you know that that’s really the only way
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but how do we do that so we live in a
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rural area where most farmers don’t
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raise their own food they raise
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commodity foods yes
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corn wheat hay well around here I mean
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it’s really just hay corn soy I mean
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rotate them you have to rotate them
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through and this year everybody’s
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raising corn and next year everybody’s
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raising soy and yeah well because they
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have to replenish because corn such a
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evil plan Rob’s the ground so so the
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problem then becomes yes we might know
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that this is all wrong and the more you
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drill down the more you realize oh my
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gosh I probably shouldn’t be shopping at
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that big grocery store that’s down the
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street I should be going to the local
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market okay but like where’s the local
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market and especially in the wintertime
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where is that and where is that local
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farmer that you know because you can see
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how they’re growing and what they’re
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spraying or not spraying and okay so I
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was I was gonna ask you you know we’ve
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identified the problem okay I’m
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convinced diversity is an issue what do
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we do I know is coffee that got it you
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had me at coffee so what do we do you
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know what do we do do we do we
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well we okay first of all we’ve got to
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boycott and we need to make it clear
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we’re boycotting certain things and we
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need to go to stores and put little
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notes saying don’t buy this product
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because it’s a lie or it’s has chemicals
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that make you sick or whatever so make
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yourself an obnoxious consumer no you
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can just go and like little notes on me
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I want to be
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you do okay well I say accidental
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activist that’s my thing but and then we
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we don’t support these companies
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companies because the thing is we’re
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donating and we’re voting with that
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money that we work hard to earn we like
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to say every dollar is a vote yes it is
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so every time we vote for that local
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farmer or that local urban gardener
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who’s growing that food in our community
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we’re saying yes this is what we want
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and we’re helping that person to do well
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and we’re helping ourselves to do well
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but by going to the big grocery store
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and I don’t care how much they say oh
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we’re so kind to our employees and we’re
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so great to all of our you know vendors
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and I’m not naming any names but every
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single grocery store that’s of any size
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at all practically has nothing you
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should eat there because it is not what
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it says a coffee I I don’t know any I do
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know about coffee but I I mean I know
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how gross but I don’t know how what it
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gets sprayed with or anything like that
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but what I’m getting at is we have to
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think about this a lot more than we have
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thought about it and even for somebody
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like me who doesn’t really buy that many
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things at the grocery store I still feel
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very frustrated I’m quite anxious that
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our local farmers market is going to
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actually start having a spring market
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I’m anxious to get more gracious in a
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good way not a bad way right I’m anxious
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in a bad way right now because I don’t
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have access to good greens and so I have
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started some greens and I usually grow
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greens in the in the winter but I
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haven’t done it this year so the reality
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is you know we can do these things for
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ourselves but most people are not going
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to okay well I’m gonna I’m gonna
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redirect the conversation away from food
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here for a little bit because we we only
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have a few more minutes but when you’re
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talking about diversity at least in my
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mind the first thing that comes up has
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to do with cultural diversity you know
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ethnic racial religious diversity and it
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feels like politically at this moment in
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time that’s something that’s that on the
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one hand on the one extreme political
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end is being celebrated and on the other
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political extreme
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is being I was gonna say restricted but
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it’s it’s more demonized or made to be
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feared so I think it’s even worse than
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that taking your children away and then
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saying they’re disappeared and you don’t
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know where they are and right oh and
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sexually assaulting people that are
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being held okay so I can see it’s clear
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you’re on the one end but let’s look at
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this from a clinical standpoint but but
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the minute you put that you know then
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people’s minds just shut off so I’m
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saying okay I don’t care now you’re
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being an obnoxious consumer I don’t care
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but but if we look at it and say just
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from a from a biodiversity standpoint of
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diversity within within our culture
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immigration various beliefs various
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perspectives is healthy to the
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environment and good for all
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participants in that environment just
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like it is in a garden right one
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protects you from the from the pests or
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the demons or the whatever of the other
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you know one idea in a cultural
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standpoint if there is a diversity of
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thought and opinion will not dominate or
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take over or cause cause widespread
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fungus infection of our minds put it on
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the calendar I think the reality is and
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I’m just gonna speak from my own
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experiences and that is that many of the
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things that enrich my life did not come
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from someone who speaks English as their
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first language I learned from them in
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this country I learned from them by
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traveling and living in other places and
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I think that we deny ourselves the truth
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about the goodness that life has to
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offer when we have a lot of different
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ideas and we also learn how to be civil
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by being exposed to lots more ideas and
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lots more kinds of people and so the
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less we have these experiences the more
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we hunker down and then we’re like
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fearful because you know you’re
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different for me and all that’s at
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Bologna but this civility what you raise
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seems to be something that’s in short
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order well I don’t think we’re doing we
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don’t teach it we don’t we don’t model
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it we’re modeling a lot of things but
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not that and even even where we live or
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or shop or whatever I’m sure people can
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say that they see this like a civility
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that’s why when something goes wrong and
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a bunch of people show up and try to
27:17
help everybody starts going see how nice
27:20
everybody is but the minute there’d be a
27:22
disagreement in that group there’s
27:24
probably a fistfight or a gun pulled you
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know it just reminded me we were we’re
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eating at a restaurant and and it was
27:30
getting crowded and as we were leaving
27:32
and there was people coming in and there
27:35
were a few people waiting and one woman
27:37
said to the I guess her husband I don’t
27:40
want to wait it’s gonna be too long and
27:41
you said oh it’s not it’s not a long
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wait they just cleared the tables and
27:45
she looked at her husband she goes she’s
27:47
a liar just like that you don’t know me
27:51
oh my god she gets to know you then
27:53
chickens yeah thinking listen here old
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woman I’m an old woman – I’m gonna kick
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your butt up in 15 seconds miss kick
28:04
your butt well so all of this comes back
28:07
to the bottom line and that’s about
28:10
balance and when we talk about things
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like immigration you know we need
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immigration we need their thoughts and
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their brilliance and their backs and
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their labor and their sweetness and all
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the things that those people are
28:24
bringing that they want to be here so
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you’re saying that that isolationism is
28:29
the antibiotic of society which will
28:32
kill us in the end Wow you better write
28:35
that down that’s a book title okay well
28:37
you have been listening to and the
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biomass it’s the wind turbine with Jay
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and Annie Warmke we want to thank our
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producer Adam Rich and thank you for
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spending just
28:47
time with us and as your grandmother
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hopefully told you the secret to a happy
28:52
and sustainable life is play nice with
28:54
others that the civility part clean up
28:57
your own mess and eat your vegetables J
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even those Brussels spouts
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