{"id":894,"date":"2019-08-28T07:02:59","date_gmt":"2019-08-28T11:02:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bluerockstation.com\/?page_id=894"},"modified":"2019-08-28T07:19:59","modified_gmt":"2019-08-28T11:19:59","slug":"054-starting-a-small-creamery-featured-on-pbs-sept-2nd-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/bluerockstation.com\/our-podcast\/054-starting-a-small-creamery-featured-on-pbs-sept-2nd-transcript\/","title":{"rendered":"054 – Starting a Small Creamery – featured on PBS Sept 2nd (Transcript)"},"content":{"rendered":"


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a personal account of creating a small<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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creamery or I’m just living the dream<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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speaking with Celeste Nolan of Laurel<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Valley Creamery in Gallipolis Ohio and I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think it’s pronounced gala police not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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around that area Celeste how do you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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pronounce it done so come I say gala<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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police but gala flu that was releases<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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although I’m frosting police yes yes<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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very accepted yes gal\u00e1pagos that I hear<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a lot of yeah that’s cuz he was from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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do and how you’ve got to where you are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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today creme razor not something we think<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about as a normal everyday occupation<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so what I do by family and I we operate<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a small dairy farm in Galia County we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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milk about 20 cows and we take all of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the milk from those cows and turn it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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into cheese we distribute that cheese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all within a hundred miles of our home<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and we support our family that way<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s cool milking 20 cows though that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well compared to others I suspect it is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re classified by the state or quite<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re a farmstead Creamery so that means<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that we make the cheese the same place<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the milk is produced and based on our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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volume we’re a medium-sized Creamery in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the state but as far as dairies we don’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have the actual facts but we’re one of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the smaller dairies in the state 20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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couses unless you’re doing some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to the milk there’s not any way to make<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a living milking 20 cows and just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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selling your milk is like commodity milk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so do you actually name your cows yeah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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some of them there you go that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’re a small dairy right and I milk I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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haven’t milked regularly for years I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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now along with my husband they’re not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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babies anymore but I crazy mean human<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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being I created it I’m just trying to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think wait you made some babies all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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investment there exactly so no they do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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exactly how I was wanting it not there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah absolutely well Celeste now<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we bought a small like 41 not small it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not small at all but we bought 40 acres<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with plans to build a house and granny<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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wanted us to move into her house well so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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she could move to town so we moved there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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while she was trying to sell it and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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showed it a few times which created some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sentimental feelings and my husband and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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he said no we’re not we can’t sell this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know let’s we’ll just go ahead and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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figure this out and we’ll buy the farm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about a year and a half after that he<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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was his job was eliminated he was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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displaced and at that that was our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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catalyst that was like well are we what<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are we gonna do let’s make it work right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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here and we bought cows and started<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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milking and that was I mean I think we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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were both naive at that point probably<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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was a good thing though absolutely<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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absolutely if you knew what was coming<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you wouldn’t do it exactly but we we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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bought cows and milked essentially at a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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loss until yet until we couldn’t borrow<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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any more money so you were you were a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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true farmer right exactly<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and then I just what I’ve been doing a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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couple interviews I like to I like to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of like look when I look back at<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all of this and my rose-colored glasses<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I came home from the hospital with my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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third daughter she was born prematurely<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so I was away from the farm for about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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two months and I came back and my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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husband and my mother-in-law said so I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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guess we’re gonna build a cheese factory<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you can make cheese right I’ve got them<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know here’s the money to do it and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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let’s let’s get started and so I started<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buying equipment and we yeah my husband<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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had all the project engineering he was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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able to install all the equipment he<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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keeps everything running and and keeps<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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milk in the tank and just keeps it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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coming to me and I just yeah I turn it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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into cheese and we get it out the door<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and off we go so when you were a little<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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girl what did you want to be when you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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grew up I you know I don’t know what I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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was exposed to when I was in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kindergarten when I was six years old I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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wanted to be a male person I want to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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deliver the mail but I think it was just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like exposure then I got to high school<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and I wanted to be a politician I wanted<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to be the president I wanted to be some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but I didn’t I didn’t know any I didn’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know how to achieve a goal I didn’t know<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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how to take steps to set a goal to to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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define it to take the steps needed every<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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day to achieve it I didn’t know that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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until we bought cows I think is when I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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learned to do that I don’t so I don’t I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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did they were ideas I guess back then or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ideas about what I wanted to be or what<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of thing I wanted to do but they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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weren’t so you don’t think that any of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that influenced where you are today the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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goals I had is I know I young person I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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was so detached from food as a young<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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person I never considered where any of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it came from it was just something like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and I say that I mean we my family they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hunted deer and we ate deer as like our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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main source of protein but again it like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I don’t it didn’t occur to me that milk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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came from cows or that there were people<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that worked and did this every day I was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as detached<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as as everybody’s everybody is now yeah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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absolutely well fortunately our culture<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is evolving and I think when you talk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about I started 13 years ago and then<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and operated at a loss what’s happened<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in those 13 years is that the foodie<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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culture has come more and more to the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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forefront and so there’s a marketplace<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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now and that makes a big difference<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in terms of where we are because we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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learned that if we eat what comes out of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the grocery store we aren’t gonna live<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to be all that old so well and also most<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Americans are not willing or not used to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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paying the cost of what real true good<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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food costs because if you say okay it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cost me this much to produce a pound of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cheese in your instance that may be much<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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higher than what most Americans are used<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to paying for cheese except what they’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buying is is garbage well because they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have a really unsophisticated cheese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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palette anyway they’re like four cheeses<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that Americans eat and plus Velveeta<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that would be five so what are the other<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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two other than yellow white yellow and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all when you mix the two share me<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Parmesan is very shaky and creamy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Parmesan it’s mostly sawdust so it’s not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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really cheese but it called cheese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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anyway what were you gonna say okay well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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let me ask you this do you think that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’re talking a lot about when the cows<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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came do you think that was the defining<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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moment for you as I’m gonna be the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cheese maker and the artisan person and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I’m gonna be able to figure out how to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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make a living<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I think the cows coming was a defining<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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moment in the fact that I knew I could<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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accomplish something every day she’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of I mean it didn’t come easy by<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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any means I learned a lot from my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mistakes but I don’t know if one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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particular cheese making mistake was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that was the defining moment it was like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a culmination of them all but it’s no I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t know I don’t know defining moment<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I don’t know if it’s broad or narrow<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah I think that first winter milking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cows was like oh if I can do this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there’s probably not anything that I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can’t do or we can’t do there’s more of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what we can’t do yeah yeah well that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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good you had a good partner okay well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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let me interrupt here for a second and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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remind everybody that you are listening<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to when the biomass hits the wind<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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turbine with Jay and Annie warm key and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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today we’re joined by Celeste Nolan of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Laurel Valley Creamery reminding you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that it is indeed the end of the world<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as we know it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and thank God thank God so so your world<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as you know it revolves around milking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cows and making cheese do you find that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that kind of sets the tone for your day<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’ve got a you know my fishin of this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is that every you get up early in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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morning you have to milk the cows in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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evening you’ve got to milk the cows is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that is that a true vision that’s yeah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s a accurate representation and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah rest of the day you’re chasing kids<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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around and telling them to make cheese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well yeah know it the day the day starts<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we move milk every other day essentially<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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from one building to another on the farm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but milking happens twice a day it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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happens 365 days a year and I myself am<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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only responsible for it maybe twice a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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week so what time of day do you melt we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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normal well so we’re going back into<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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school season so right now we’re milking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about 9:00 in the morning and then about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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7:00 in the evening it’s not horrible<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but now my my health is gonna go back to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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school and so we’re gonna have we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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gonna change the cow’s schedule a little<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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bit and we’ll start a little bit earlier<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and finish a little bit earlier so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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everybody’s got a good night’s rest<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and family how many gallons of milk or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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do they measure this by weight so I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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measure milk by pounds by weight there’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about eight and a half pounds per gallon<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of milk I move about 1500 pounds every<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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other day which I should know I should<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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be able to break that back down but each<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cow is producing about 30 pounds or five<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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or six gallons of milk or day<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and from each gallon of milk I get about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a pound of cheese and then do you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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pasteurize that I do both I make some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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aged raw milk cheeses along with some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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fresh pasteurize cheeses as well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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depending on milk volume and then<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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summer I’ve just been making fresh<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cheese good yeah that’s that’s a good<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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will influence your life as you age as a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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woman and a mom and a farmer oh well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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myself that I’m able to do things and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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able to make a living and support my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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me I guess so those are yeah that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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person when I started and I’m also like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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high school diploma and what does that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mean uneducated well I don’t have any<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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definitely not uneducated or unlearned I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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formal education or maybe like the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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skills that people think that they need<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to create a business or to support<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the ability to be able to learn the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things that you need to learn to be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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successful I always think that’s what I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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children and they are any in any level<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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reasonable human beings we can run any<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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business because it really is about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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getting everything done on time making<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sure everybody has as much as you can<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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give them what they need and that is the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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GDP yeah yeah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it is the gross happiness factor right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s what I’m going for gross<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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happiness that’s how I know if we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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succeeded well first and foremost your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’ve indicated and and so what are the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what are the major perils that you would<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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see I mean you’re saying it’s successful<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re making a living we’re continuing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to make you’ve been at this for you say<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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15 years or 17 13 14 15 that’s that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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better than most businesses right most<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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businesses fail in the first five years<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so you’re obviously an ongoing thriving<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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concern so if you were to to counsel<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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someone who wants to go into this what<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are those things you got to watch out<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for what are what are the things that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’ve stumbled over as you go through<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and and come to a solution<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well I’d the ballot I think you know the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainability issue or the balance<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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issue for me and for my family has been<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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more facing the doing it every day<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not necessarily the economic challenges<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the environmental challenges those are I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t know I mean they’re there I guess<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and they’re there different things that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you deal with this is the the emotional<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re going to do this the six of us are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going to do this or the eight of us are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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gonna do this every day for twice a day<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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forever well the house don’t care that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you don’t feel like no they don’t they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t care it I see or if it’s a holiday<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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nor do I go on vacation wind chill at 20<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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no oh yeah yeah now we know this I know<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this yeah goat herder right they don’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ya know the cows it the cows don’t Karen<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and nor do the people that buy our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cheese I mean like they care about us<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they want to buy they want to buy cheese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they want to feel connected to us but<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they also like they’re totally sleeping<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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when I’m making cheese like yeah you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know and which is fine and I’m glad I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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guess that they’re able to do that but<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s the challenges that we’ve faced<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is the the sustainability how long can<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we go with this rate giving it all that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re giving it if that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainable like that that’s what I was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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saying about you know a plan as you age<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because there’s a toll that it takes on<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the body whether it’s standing up making<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the cheese or dealing with the animals<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like for example I tore the ligament in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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my shoulder and from a goat who decided<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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she was going to argue with me and I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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argued back which was stupid on my part<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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against my rules actually but I was just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not myself that day so I decided I could<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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take her on and anyway but the the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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reality was that it really impacted how<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I was thinking then about how I go<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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forward in being a goat herder by myself<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because it frankly has been quite<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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painful and limited some of the things<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that I could do so I have to acknowledge<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that as I age if I want to keep doing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what I’m doing which I definitely do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then how do i influence that well you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have you have unhide help I heard of her<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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no that’s right but I want them to stay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I want them to want to stay and I want<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to set a good example like this as a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this life has lots of reward lots of if<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there we go exactly lots of benefits I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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love the way it stays you and not just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for money so what are some other ways<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that you make a living besides milk and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the cheese you said you have pigs<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we have pigs exactly and then we have we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have a well a product line or we make we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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make hot dogs out of our pigs but but<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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really we direct sale all of our cheese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and that’s the that’s the main yeah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s the main source of income on the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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farm well how do you deal with them not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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only it occurred to me when you’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but you have cows they have a finite<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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life right in producing but also you’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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got to deal with sicknesses you’ve got<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to deal with diseases you’ve got to deal<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you may desperately love this particular<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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producer so you have to make some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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decisions that way how do you work<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there was a big like turning point or a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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line that I could that will crossed when<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we went from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hobby farming to making a living for my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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animals because we I really depend on<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the animals as they depend on me my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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family it’s a partnership we all work<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we had another income that wasn’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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related to the animals if you know if I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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needed to dump a hundred and fifty<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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dollars into a goat I had a hundred and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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fifty dollars to put into a goat and it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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didn’t matter if I was going to get a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hundred and fifty dollars back from the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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goat and now I have to make decisions<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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based on what’s best for our business<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and not necessarily always putting money<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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into a cow that I know that I’m not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going to get back in milk so I make<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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those I stop making those decisions from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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an emotional place and I make them from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a business place now but I but it’s not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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something that we face so loud I don’t I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t we don’t push any of our cows for<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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production I’m not you know out there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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grace grace grace eat eat eat milk milk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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milk it’s just like yeah you guys go do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your thing and come back here and we’ll<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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take what you’ve got oh and they’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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gonna live longer because because I’m a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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juice that’s what I would say is my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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animals are there for the long haul<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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right and I made that commitment in a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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partnership with them so I’m not gonna<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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push them I’m gonna say what do you got<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to give and we’re gonna go forward well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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how long will a cow you know service<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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their needs so a cow is they’re bred to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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our cows are bred to calf when they’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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between 2 and 3 years old is when they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have their first calf and they milk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what was male and female so i just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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September the second when how do you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think that’s gonna influence your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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business um I don’t I think I hope that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s gonna make people feel more<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know as they know us better and they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know some more of what it takes to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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produce the cheese I think it’s going to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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air nationally which like I I want<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people to like take away or to know that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there’s people like us doing similar<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things all the way across the country<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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families all around the country that are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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taking you know the natural resources<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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important way that they are doing it but<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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closer I don’t know I just want people<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they’re just regular people we’re not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just farmers somewhere where we have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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families we have a lot of things in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the next day and now you get like all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the end but what is the best advice<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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personality in my or yeah something in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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my brain but I definitely even though I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s a good thing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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way to go Celeste well we want to thank<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you Celeste and you have been listening<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to when the biomass hits the wind<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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turbine with Jay and Annie warm key and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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our guest the one who listens<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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occasionally Celeste Nolan and learns<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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were mistakes we’d also like to thank<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Adam rich our award-winning producer and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thank you for spending just a little bit<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of time with us and as your grandmother<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hopefully told you the secret to a happy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and sustainable life is play nice with<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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others clean up your own mess and Jay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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will you please eat your veggies this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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week till next time<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you can find more information on living<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainably in our unsustainable world<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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at Blue Rock station calm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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