{"id":948,"date":"2019-08-29T07:21:29","date_gmt":"2019-08-29T11:21:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bluerockstation.com\/?page_id=948"},"modified":"2019-08-29T07:23:08","modified_gmt":"2019-08-29T11:23:08","slug":"033-living-a-net-zero-lifestyle-transcript","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/bluerockstation.com\/our-podcast\/033-living-a-net-zero-lifestyle-transcript\/","title":{"rendered":"033 – Living a Net Zero Lifestyle (Transcript)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

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what that means to you and me I’m Jay Warmke<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and I’m Annie Warmke and today<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re going to talk about net living a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Net Zero lifestyle or nothing from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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nothing leaves something Thank You Billy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not gonna sing no not this time<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all right all right so Annie we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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talking about oh speaking of Net Zero my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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singing define what is Net Zero what do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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whatever we call it living sustainably<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so but the the true definition there are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to read from my papers so Net Zero and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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energy generated equals okay we’ll see<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all right Net Zero presumably is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s all about our lifestyle so we not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I’m not one of those is that energy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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generated equals or exceeds the energy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so basically what you’re saying is most<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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no thought whatsoever of how this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all based on tax revenue and tax<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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abatements and all that kind of stuff<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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be based on that it should come back to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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how the long term of this building<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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benefits that site and the use of the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what kind of materials how are we going<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to deal with you mentioned thermal mass<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you mentioned passive solar<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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harvesting composting how we’re yeah I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mean we do that in our place of BlueRock<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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convenience store somewhere if they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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still exist how are you gonna integrate<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thermal mass passive solar things like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that in in a more middle-class suburban<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that this also applies to buildings that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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currently exist so we’re always making<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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decisions about what gets torn down and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what gets left behind and if we like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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something or don’t like something and so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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neighborhood where they’re going to tear<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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down some buildings you know if those<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buildings are oriented to the proper<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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direction and have the ability to be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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retrofitted so that they could<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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incorporate some of the things you just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mentioned perhaps that would be a time<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we might reconsider that that’s the best<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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highest use of that land we need the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buildings to be oriented to the south<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and perhaps a little to the east<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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assuming you’re in the northern<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hemisphere sitting on the globe but in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this area in in North America that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where we would think and why are you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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facing themself well because we want to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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capture the warmth in the morning when<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s cold out and the Sun is low in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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horizon and then we want to be able to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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help heat the building with that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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capturing of that Sun because just like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your car in the parking lot I was trying<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to lead you down the path of saying that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in the northern hemisphere the Sun is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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usually in the southern portion of the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sky okay I’m sorry<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this is something that I think we all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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learn ok the wind is great the witness<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can proceed right thank you I’m on trial<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so so the Sun is in comes from the east<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in the morning and so we want to orient<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the building so it captures that first<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Sun as much as possible and then during<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the course of the day it captures the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Sun from the south and perhaps even if<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re lucky some in the West and that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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area where there is sunshine in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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winter and you’re describing passive<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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solar base that’s exactly right and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s one of my pet peeves is how come<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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every building faces the street like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s the interesting important thing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well it’s about making money and it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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definitely not about making using the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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land right but the signage the signage<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can face the street the building doesn’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have to you know when you’re talking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about commercial so why not orient the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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building to take advantage of free<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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energy well first of all I don’t think<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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until recently architects actually<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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studied or thought about those engineers<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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did not either so we’re at an exciting<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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time in development when we use terms<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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beginning to say look we don’t have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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enough resources to keep doing the way<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things the way we’ve been doing them and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with the crazy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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global weirding that we’re experiencing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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these kinds of buildings that we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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beginning to talk about and think about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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actually help us to control the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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environment so that if the electric grid<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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goes down or we don’t have the money for<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the gas for the the furnace or other<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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problems exists where there’s tremendous<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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variances in temperature the environment<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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inside the buildings where humans work<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and live can be controlled in a more<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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efficient and effective way and put a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lot less stress on the environment so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then from a Net Zero lifestyle<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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standpoint and we’re still sort of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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talking about construction you you look<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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at it and you say okay the energy that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re going to use here we want to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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create here as much as possible but it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we use but the water that runs off we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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need to deal with that that gets into<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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water systems and sewer systems and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things like that and then you start to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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get into the materials that you’re using<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in the building and well let’s just back<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thing we have to do is we have to create<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a building that incorporates passive<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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solar which we’ve just been talking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about but also thermal mass because we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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want the basic tenant of that building<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and how it functions to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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be able to hold a steady temperature<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that does not go below the cave effect<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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temperature which in this region is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know like if you go into a cave in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the summer it feels cool you go in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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still about 55 degrees so if we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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always heating and cooling a building<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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from that basic temperature then then we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have a whole different ballgame when we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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begin to look at energy consumption okay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and then what about water harvesting<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well the other thing is that we also<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have a lot of variants in water right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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now so lots of places are getting too<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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much in lots of places they’re not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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getting enough and it’s creating a lot<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of problems so if we then go back to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of the way our great-grandparents<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lived and we say we ought to be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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collecting water off the roof of the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buildings and they call that the roof<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the footprint of the roof you know that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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changes a lot of things for the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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government because of all the water<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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runoff that a lot of that runoff is not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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leaving the the site it’s going into a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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storage area and that gives the building<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the ability to have its own water okay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well you are listening to when the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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biomass hits the wind turbine with Jay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and Annie Warmke reminding you that it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is the end of the world as we know it oh<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and thank God thank God especially today<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and the end of traditional and I always<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like to put that in quotes because it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of recent traditional building<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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processes yeah well let’s just say a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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couple things about thermal mass okay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well yes then because I just my favorite<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah okay but so kids are studying these<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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principles from the 4th through the 8th<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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grade in a lot of places and yet we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t seem to still understand what that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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means and so to me thermal mass is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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really creating the ability to collect<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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energy into like for example when you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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build a building with tires as the basic<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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wall that are rammed full of clay that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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clay has the ability when the Sun hits<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the wall<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to collect the energy and hold it there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and then to radiate it back into the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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building over the period of time equal<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to when it was getting when the wall was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hitting that wall for four hours then<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s going to take another four hours<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for that heat to dissipate and go back<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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down to the 55 degree temperature so we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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need to be building buildings that have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mass and that’s could be water it could<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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be clay yeah it’s gonna say when I was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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studying all of this stuff way back when<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not only does any material every<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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long that energy will radiate back into<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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something that architects don’t seem to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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study or take into account because as<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you mentioned water turns out to be like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the best building material as I always<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like to say it’s hard to put a nail in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it but you know it’s it’s a good<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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building material and it will absorb a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lot of heat very efficiently and then<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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radiate it back at at a very long and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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steady process so I think to play<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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devil’s advocate when you’re doing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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construction most of the people who are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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doing construction say all right how do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I get in get out in a hurry use the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cheapest materials I can use get this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thing construction constructed quickly<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and maximize my profits with the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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smallest amount of labour and you’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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saying that is not the approach well we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can’t keep going that way and that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where the thankgod part it comes in when<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we say it’s the end of the world as we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know it because we first of all we have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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plenty of buildings for people to live<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in and have businesses in but we don’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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come from a place of retrofitting or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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repurposing those buildings we come from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the position of it’s it’s utilized its<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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tax life as it as it right off and so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’ve depreciated it out now we can tear<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it down or sell it to somebody else or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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move on or whatever so we we have to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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move on from that way of thinking about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we then come back to how do we take the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buildings that currently exist and stop<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thinking that we’re going to build<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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called Asaf buildings where they’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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cookie-cutter they all look the same<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I’m shocked sometimes when I go to new<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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places and I see that every house looks<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the same in fact it might even be some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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variation of a tan color so they’re all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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tan but one’s lighter one’s darker and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this is shocking to me because that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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exactly the opposite of where we need to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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be so we should not be in can the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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construction mode of every building is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just you know on a street and we go from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one building to the next to install the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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heater and install the drywall and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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install whatever it’s not the way we can<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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continue to think about okay so we have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to get out of this assembly line mindset<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of life and let me let me move beyond<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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building because I think we’ve we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of beat on that to the point where<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re going to but then you talk about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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some broader concepts like in a NetZero<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lifestyle does I mean even at the very<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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basic level does everybody need to own a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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home does everybody think not does<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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everybody need a kitchen you know right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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these are things that we’re kind of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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talking about private ownership which is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the American dream by God and what about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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shared you know what did you learn –<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well humans don’t share well you know I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have come to the conclusion in life<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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after studying this quite a lot as<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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somebody who has a background in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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counseling that for the most part we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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start out being very greedy and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hedonistic very selfish and that’s how<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we learn to walk and get what we need<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and diapers changed and you know food<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and all that stuff but for lots of us a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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vast majority of us we never kind of get<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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beyond that way of thinking about life<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and so we have a hard time interacting<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with other people and I think it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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getting a lot worse because we have less<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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experiences less broad-based experiences<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so I think one of the challenges is that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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first of all we need to think about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buildings being smaller that’s sort of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what you’re talking about and then<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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saying well what can we share could we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have a shared kitchen so maybe there are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a number of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what they would call tiny houses and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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these are not things on wheels that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just a fad but small homes that that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have a lot of outdoor living space so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that you have places to go walking or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that you have a place to have a barbecue<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and that there is a barbecue<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there isn’t one barbecue for the six<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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homes that surround that kitchen so your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sleeping space and your your basic<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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living is in a building but then you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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would share other kinds of spaces that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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would be called common I guess yeah I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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always think of like at the dormitory<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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kind of idea you have your private space<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but but then their shared entertainment<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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spaces shared kitchen spaces things of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that nature and we don’t have to sort of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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take that dormitory idea that you’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sharing it with a whole bunch of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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strangers or near strangers it can be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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smaller families I mean if we just said<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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look we a lot of people have very close<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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families several generations and they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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want to be together they are together a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lot they just don’t live in the same<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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building so if we just came from that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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position where maybe there’s older you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know the parents are older or aunts and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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uncles or cousins or whatever and then<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there were the younger generations and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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each one had their own small building<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and then they all shared a cooking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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facility that to me seems like about the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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only situation that could guarantee to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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work at some level because everybody’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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got a different way of doing things and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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some people are cleaner than others so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then everybody gets mad because you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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didn’t scrub this or whatever but if we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just said let’s focus on families and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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how to work among families to create<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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these situations that wouldn’t have that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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would have a huge impact well and we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hear a lot you know intentional<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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many people so why not shared living<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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facilities where you depend upon each<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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other your friends your relatives maybe<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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or or people you’ve known or people that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’re getting to know over the years so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I think what we what we’re always coming<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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back to is the the idea of why do we do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things the way we do them why do we feel<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that a single fan<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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home for a nuclear family that has all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of the things you know duplicated in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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little cul-de-sac I mean why is that our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ideals about consumption it is totally<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about consumption because it’s the rich<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’re only going to buy one of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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something and so if everybody is buying<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one of something you know poor people<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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buy lots more stuff than rich people do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the rich people just pay more for it so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s all about consumption and we have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to move away from that model and it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the same way when we’re talking about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Net Zero lifestyle is that we need to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have places and learn how we can grow<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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food for ourselves because the food that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is available to us for the most part<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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especially for people who don’t have the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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money to go to or have access to a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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farmers market or a local farm or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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neighbor neighbors who might grow food<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and share their food is that we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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eating food that nobody not even our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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livestock should be consuming and this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is becoming more and more and more<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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evident so we we need to have buildings<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that enable us to grow nutritious<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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healthy food for our families and for<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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really our kids are not learning any of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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parents and and they and they have been<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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excited to be there the kids they’re all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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teenagers<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where they yes but they and they also<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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informed me when I wanted to I we feed<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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everybody at blue rock station and so we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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were going to have some chili I had made<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with some new potatoes and they looked<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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up in horror because they said they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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didn’t eat potatoes and I said wait a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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from McDonald’s so I said oh there’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they’re close to potatoes<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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food we’re talking about building some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going to lead the way that’s for sure<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like uber and more systems that are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going into place for people and why do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you think that is leading the way<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because it’s expensive okay two reasons<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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one is people don’t earn enough to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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afford to have an apartment and a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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expensive you’re in an urban environment<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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parking the vehicle getting insurance<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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absolutely and the energy that goes in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to those vehicles is very volatile one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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next day it might cost 399 and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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eventually I hope it’s gonna cost 1099<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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saying okay you can transition from this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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actually find the advantages and there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is an opportunity for businesses to make<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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money well that’s right and it’s the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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couchsurfing and you get to know people<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you get to know the area it’s a whole<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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different experience so I think we’ll<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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see a lot more of those kind of things<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and they’re definitely setting trends<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that are going to educate us and lead us<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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further down the pike towards this Net<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Zero lifestyle okay well we’ve got about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a minute left and if you could maybe<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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oh never mind<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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fine lessons planned obsolesce yeah yeah<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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evolved is not only do we have throwaway<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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homes and throwaway cars we have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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throwaway everything’s right well we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think we throw away lots of things<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because they’re designed to break within<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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six months and I’m not exaggerating you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can look up the term planned<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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obsolescence you there are lots of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things you know YouTube and on online<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about all kinds of ways that we are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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forced to be consumers so essentially<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re saying that the Net Zero lifestyle<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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isn’t going to be a difficult transition<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but it is a transition nonetheless that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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must take eggs thought it takes a lot of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thought well I find that very difficult<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so I think I’ve noticed that you are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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listening to when the biomass it’s the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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wind turbine with Jay and Annie Warmke<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we want to thank our producer Adam Rich<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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who wins Emmys so we don’t have to and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we would like to thank you for spending<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just a little bit of time with us and as<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your grandmother<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hopefully told you the secret to a happy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and sustainable life is play nice with<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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others clean up your mess and Jay will<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you please eat your vegetables system<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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till next time<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you can find more information on living<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainably in our unsustainable world<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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at Blue Rock station calm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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