{"id":980,"date":"2019-09-05T07:49:35","date_gmt":"2019-09-05T11:49:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bluerockstation.com\/?page_id=980"},"modified":"2019-09-05T07:52:26","modified_gmt":"2019-09-05T11:52:26","slug":"028-future-of-sustainability","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/bluerockstation.com\/our-podcast\/028-future-of-sustainability\/","title":{"rendered":"028 – Future of Sustainability"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

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welcome to this edition of when the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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discussion of sustainable living and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what that means to you and me I’m Jay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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gonna talk about future trends and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainability or don’t follow me I’m<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lost too I’m gonna remind you of that I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainability at nauseam and and at<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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black stations all right so I’m trying<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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various aspects of sustainability there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are a whole lot of broad categories so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I don’t care about statistics right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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those can be manipulated and who does<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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none of these projections have anything<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to do with any scientific research not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so we’re doing scientific research all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that okay well speaking of it’s our news<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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from Blue Rock station speaking of fake<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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news let’s talk about communication okay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we we are a world dependent upon<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so in the world of sustainability what<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’ve seen this this ever progressing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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march of media coming at us ever no it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that backlash is gonna keep coming and I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just you you were I was just gonna<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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better farmers markets more buying<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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whether they can really count on the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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disruption of the food chain where the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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food cannot be distributed so it isn’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just about that it’s poisoned<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people surprised me even today of how<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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close they live to this line of they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t have enough in their house to eat<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and they’re not poor people they just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t put food up you know they don’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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preserve food they don’t have a big they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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right and if you talk about the city as<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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an organism yes I mean this I don’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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remember the right statistic but it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like there’s two days or the food or so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah I know yeah but it’s not that’s not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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very much and it’s like people also have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lost the skillsets to produce food in a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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way that you can like read you know take<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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leftovers and do something else with it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the ability to make proper food and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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see is that we’re going to need to go<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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back to some form of home economics so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that young people can learn how to care<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for themselves and I don’t think that’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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happening right now<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but I also think that we’re going to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have and these trends are you can go<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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online and look this up but as far as<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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meat and dairy consumption that is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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decreasing every single year now and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there’s a lot of complaining about the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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fact that people are eating less meat<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and dairy and of course the meat and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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dairy industry is going after the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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meatless industry and the almond milk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people saying they can’t use the word<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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milk and trying to create definition and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they’re actually passing legislation in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a number of states and have one passing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this legislation to stop the almond milk<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people from saying milk or the meatless<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people you know toe fruit – what is it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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toad – tofurkey can’t you know after 30<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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years they’re not allowed to use that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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term or something I don’t know but the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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reality is we are eating less meat we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are eating less dairy and what do those<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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trends mean well maybe we eat more fake<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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food or maybe we just eat more plant<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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produced food well it strikes me and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where we’re we’re sort of heading in all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of this when we talk about the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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technologies people were ejected some of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the technology infrastructure is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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collapsing under its own wheat well I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can’t seem to get an internet signal out<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of there oh my god things like that so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we see that there are pockets the urban<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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settings or the affluent urban settings<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have access to a lot of things so it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with the technology and with the with<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the food system we’re creating again the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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haves and the have-nots and it’s largely<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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based on the zip code where you live you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know your economic situation and your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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location proximity to other people where<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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concentration makes it economic to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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provide so so that’s there are a lot of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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neighborhoods in in urban areas that are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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food deserts and a food desert is not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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having access to a real grocery store<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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within 2 miles so we actually live in a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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desert yeah okay well we’re I think<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s a trend that will see<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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accelerating and continuing is is this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the haves and the have-nots becoming<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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template to layover every one of these<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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trends that we put in because those<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people who are educated and have the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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resources you know they’re entering into<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this brave new world of amazing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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opportunity those people who are not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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accessible to these resources become<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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more and more ghettoized you know in in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so many different ways and as we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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seen as the great great equalizer does<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not seem to be stepping up to the plate<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well they’re not coming right well we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can they encourage it they really do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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encourage it okay so speaking of not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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coming this is another good ok<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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transportation there we go<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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transportation how are we even get there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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as Annie sees it well one is that this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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does not take a rocket scientist to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that the Saudis are paying us back for<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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us not putting up with some of their big<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lies in their their torture where we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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being rewarded for putting up with these<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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oh I don’t think we’re being rewarded at<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all I think we’re being led down okay so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’re saying okay we’re gonna make you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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dependent one so once again I see fuels<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah then we’re gonna yank the carpet<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah we are cynical person yeah they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and they got a lot of petrol I mean a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lot of oil and they can do it so and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then people are gonna race out and buy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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these vehicles and fortunately the other<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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trend well so and then they’re going to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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knock the socks off of us with the price<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but that’s okay I think that’s a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all the major car companies are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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repositioning themselves to have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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electric vehicles and hybrid vehicles<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and that is going to save us so this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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these can do whatever they want but<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’re gonna be in a better position now<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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save us save us for the time being<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because every trend solves a problem and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then turns around it absolutely<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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absolutely it’s another problem okay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well you have been listening to when the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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biomass it’s the wind turbine with Jay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and Annie Warmke reminding you once<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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more that it is indeed the end of the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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world as we know it and thank God thank<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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God okay so we’re not done yet man we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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got the future to worry about so we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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been talking about transportation and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and we’re talking about okay<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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transportation gas prices going up<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s gonna its disruptive the feast or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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famine kind of situation of fossil fuels<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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moving towards an electric<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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transportation and then one of my<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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possible future trends I mean we in this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainability industry love mass<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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transit none of us actually use it even<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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when it works you know when it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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available we like the convenience of our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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own vehicle you and I love to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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commiserate about how much we’d love to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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was very convenient but but if you’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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talking about people in general not not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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strange Psychopaths like ourselves<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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reserved for your goats so anyway we we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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tend to like the convenience of going<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where we want to go and getting there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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when we want to get there and I think<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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what we’re seeing is a conversion of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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technologies that will allow for<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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individualized mass transit and and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s a concept that I think is we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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taking baby steps towards their uber is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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an example I don’t have to own a car<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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whenever I want to get somewhere I just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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call up uber and they show up and take<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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me where I want to go if you happen to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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available and things like that but there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are a lot of folks now in our society<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sim<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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opposed to a necessity then we’re moving<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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towards driverless vehicles but back up<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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because I’m thinking of being in Paris<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and in London where they have converted<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to like I think every taxi driver I saw<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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government-owned and the thing about<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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saying that is all these individual cars<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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racing around and there are a lot more<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of them and that is kind of like<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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destroying the whole concept of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainability well we we thought we had<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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this thought okay if people aren’t going<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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out to buy their own cars there’ll be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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less traffic what ends up happening is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the uber drivers driving around looking<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for somebody to pick up so so there’s a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lot more traffic on the road so I’m not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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saying these things are solving any<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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problems I’m just saying this is a trend<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where we’re going to look towards<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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individualized mass transit whether that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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be vehicles driven or autonomous<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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bicycles we see that in some places<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where you can just you know put money in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a slot take a bike drive where you want<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to go right where you want to go and I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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believe there’s a couple of Chinese<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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companies that are doing that really big<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in some sense there are some of those<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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rental car places that are like that too<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you just grab a car and there’s a car<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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park somebody right in Columbus you can<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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do that right now southeastern Ohio is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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not only a food desert we’re a desert<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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when it comes to all these innovation so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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once again the haves and the have-nots<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well we have other things that are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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important yes beauty fresh air good food<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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charming people and intelligent children<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so those are all remember that gosh<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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there’s too many on the list right so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but I just think that private mass<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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transit which seems to be an oxymoron<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but I think it’s something that you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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heard it here first okay let’s move on I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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heard it here first<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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employment ok what’s the future of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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employment the future of employment is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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if you want to have a life so first of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all if you went to college you probably<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are in debt for the rest of your life<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and I just had dinner on the weekend<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with somebody who went to school to get<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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her master’s degree in accounting and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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she has a hundred seventy thousand<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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dollars in debt $1,800 a month payment<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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before she pays rent or anything so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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she’s in debt for the rest of her life<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and that’s the way it is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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how old is this person Oh like 28 or 29<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so so here’s the other part of that is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that in order to live sustainably forget<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the debt part for the moment in order to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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live sustainably I believe that we have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to live very differently than we do now<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for one thing we need to not have one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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source for any one thing that we need so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we don’t if we shouldn’t have one source<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to heat our house so why do we have one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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source for employment so so you’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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moving towards the gig economy well I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know that’s what they call it although<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it doesn’t seem like it’s terribly nice<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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right now but I think what has to happen<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is we have to have a different<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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government that sustains some of this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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with us so we’re in partnership with the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people who take the tax money and so we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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need to have young people who have a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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couple of different sources and here’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of employment and here’s what happens<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then that perhaps they actually do<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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something that gives them a sense of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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accomplishment and makes them feel good<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about what they’re doing whether it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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working for McDonald’s or its sweeping<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the streets I mean not everybody is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going to end up doing you know being the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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rocket scientist but the other flip side<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of that is that we need to have people<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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feel good about what they’re doing and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it is possible for the other part of it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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is has to do with training you know I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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see a trend towards saying look we’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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got a couple of different groups that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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are in school besides the people going<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to university and the people that are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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just going to go out and do the labourer<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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jobs and in between there are some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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really brilliant people who need trade<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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school they need vocational<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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occasion they need mentoring and so I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think if we step up to the plate and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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look at that and say that’s a solution<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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then the gig economy can work because<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people are in different jobs doing<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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different things that appeal to them<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s not just you’re just the laborer<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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using your back to earn a living and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’re not even making enough to pay for<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a place to live so what you’re saying is<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the post-world War two idea or ideal of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going out getting a college education<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going to work for a large corporation<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and having this this unsaid contract<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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between that company that I will devote<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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all of my energies to you and you will<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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take care of me until I die basically<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well that’s it that that was the very<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ideal list well that was never a reality<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but most of our ideals are never<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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realities but we’re saying okay let’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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acknowledge the fact that the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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corporation doesn’t care whether you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know they’ll use you abuse you and toss<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you away so we see the idea that you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know working to live not living to work<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s that’s the big piece where we are<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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right now that young people want to have<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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more of a life they’ve seen that and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they know it doesn’t work and they’ve<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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been saddled with this debt and so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they’re saying look I can’t earn enough<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to even afford a car and a place to live<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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I can’t afford children so I want to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have something that says I can have some<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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leisure time I want to have some time<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where I can just be myself instead of be<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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owned by the person I work for and I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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want to feel sustainable in what I’m<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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doing you know lots of young people want<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to do composting and grow food and you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know I think it’s a huge trend in our<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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culture and it’s just beginning okay so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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so the big killer of choices which<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you’ve mentioned several times is debt<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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debt is prison debt is slavery and and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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debt is is the number one product sold<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in our nation I mean that is the product<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that is manufactured more than anything<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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else if you think about the debt<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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industry<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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yeah as it exists and and I think from<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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historical standpoint you know at one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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point people did not go into debt they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they worked saved and bought what it was<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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they needed there are certain purchases<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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like homes and land that that becomes<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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almost a generational thing where you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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would have to work almost your whole<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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life to save up for that so so there<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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became it are you inherited so there’s a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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different model than we have today right<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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but but then with the idea of being able<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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to purchase a home on installment that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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was a big advancement and like most<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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things that become a problem in the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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beginning they were not necessarily a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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problem so then we get a revolving<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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credit kind of thing for the for the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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purchase of things you would like to<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have now the the old company store idea<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know that was a way of indenture<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people to be indebted to the country<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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model we have now yeah so now you’re now<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the company stores your credit card you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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know you are working to pay off the debt<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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against things that you’re already used<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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up and broke well you also borrowed<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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money say if you’re in college or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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university you borrowed money towards<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your future earnings you didn’t just<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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borrow money to have something right and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that’s the next step is you say all<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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right not only are you borrowing money<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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for stuff that it’s gonna depreciate and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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break and get used up but now we’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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going to borrow money against future<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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earnings and and we’ve speculated a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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little bit about this in our own private<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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conversations is to say well what else<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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could these people actually loan you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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money against that you have well what<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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else does the person have they don’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have enough mouths I’m saying you know<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in when we push it one forward why not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sell the future earnings of your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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children you know why why you’re you’re<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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doing that with with school debt why not<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you know the second year kid is born say<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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dollars I’m gonna borrow against my kids<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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earning and you say well that’s not fair<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well who said economics is fair right I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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mean you’re raising the kid for eighteen<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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years 20 years what<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that kid owes you I don’t think it’s<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that far-fetched because I was reading<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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about the way that things are being done<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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in China where they have a credit system<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and it basically evaluates you it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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evaluates everything you purchase it<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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evaluates your friends and your family<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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eat and the music they listen to and if<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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high up on the scale people will go out<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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give them money to sign on to their<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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friendship base so they can lift their<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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ability to borrow money or buy things or<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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apparently have to sign up ahead of time<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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enough rating on your card you can’t get<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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a place in some of the restaurants sense<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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which is why the governor and I go<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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through the drive-thru window he’s dead<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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neither I just want you to say he’s dead<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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no I wasn’t talking about that guy oh<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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okay it’s alive governor I don’t know of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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which state okay so so you’re in debt<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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your future is in debt you’re up to your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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eyeballs where are you gonna live well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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my people are living at home well they<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sold your future income that’s true well<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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no they didn’t get that money or you you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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got that money but it’s gonna change I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think it’s not just living at home but I<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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think I see lots of young people living<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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together in houses in neighborhoods<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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where four or five people are living in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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some of these houses that are pretty<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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good-sized or even not pretty good-sized<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and even people my age living with<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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younger people where they rent a room so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you say everybody doesn’t need their own<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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home everybody doesn’t need their own<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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car everybody doesn’t need their own<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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lawnmower their own riding mower their<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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own whatever their own kitchen right so<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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why don’t we share these resources<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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well we’re Americans so we’re taught<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that we have this you know pioneering<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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spirit and we should buy one of<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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everything for ourselves but I think<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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it’s starting to change and I think the<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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economy is enough who’s teaching us that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the guys who want to sell us<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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stuff well but who’s teaching us that we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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don’t need to do that and that’s maybe<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you and I are okay well I’m saying low<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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stomach from a marketing standpoint who<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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word-of-mouth right now and that’s where<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the activism piece comes in because we<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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can make changes with things like this<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and how we consume and how we live and<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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how we don’t live that can make such a<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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huge difference so I want to say one<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thing about spiritual practice because<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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we’ve talked about a lot of things that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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have to do with stuff okay well 15<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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seconds for spirit all right so I think<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that the emergence of young younger<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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people discovering groups like pagans<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that have a religious group that come<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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together I think there’s a bankruptcy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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that we have in our culture around<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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spiritualism and it’s not about religion<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and so I think people are going to start<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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discovering some of these wonderful<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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other practices that are more rooted in<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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nature and real life okay well with that<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thought you’ve been listening to when<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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the biomass it’s the wind turbine with<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Jay and Annie Warmke we want to thank<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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our producer Adam rich hey Adam didn’t<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you win an Emmy Adam congratulations<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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thank you for just spending a little bit<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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of time with us and as your grandmother<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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hopefully told you the secret to a happy<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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and sustainable life is stop picking on<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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Adam clean up your own mess and eat your<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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vegetables thank you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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[Music]<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you can find more information on living<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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sustainably in our unsustainable world<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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at Blue Rock station calm<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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you<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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